http://truthinfortune.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] truthinfortune.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] triple_d_ooc2009-12-27 09:10 pm

The Epic P3/P4 Shadow Plotting Post!

Hey guys! Remember this little plot we've been talking about since November? Well guess what?

IT GOT APPROVED!

We're still working out just when it's going to happen, but it seems like it's still set for sometime in January. So, for everyone who is participating, please consider this an unofficial sign-up post!

To make things easier, I'd like everyone to provide some basic information regarding their Shadows and Personas. Once the plot begins, we can refer back to this post for ease of access.

Name: Your Persona's name. Shadows are just referred to as Shadow [Insert name here.]
Description: If you want, describe what your Shadow/Persona looks like. Or post a link to a picture.
Arcana: What's your Shadow's/Persona's Arcana?
Inheritance: What kind of skills is it most proficient with? (Physical, Fire, Ice, Electricity, Wind, Light, Darkness, Almighty, Ailment, Recovery, Support).
Elemental Resistance: Shadows/Personas can either be Strong, Weak, Null, Repel, or Drain certain types of damage. List all that apply. It is possible to have a Shadow/Persona that has no Elemental Strengths or Weaknesses, so keep that in mind.
Level: About what level of strength is your Shadow/Persona?

Remember! The more strongly your character tries to suppress their issues, the stronger their Shadow becomes. This is why Yosuke's Shadow was relatively weak compared to Naoto's: his issues weren't so deeply buried compared to hers, so you can use that as a reference.

Now, this next part is specific to the Personas... They'll fall into three roles: Fighter, Scanner, or Healbot.

Fighters are pretty self-explanatory. They'll be on the front lines fighting against Shadows and the like.

Scanners are like Fuuka and Rise. They can actually read various statistics regarding the Shadows (like their Arcana type, elemental resistances and weaknesses, etc.) IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR MORE OF THOSE GUYS, OR ELSE IT WILL BE REALLY HARD TO SPLIT INTO MULTIPLE FIGHTING PARTIES. Basically, without a Scanner type to keep track of things, it's pretty much impossible to figure out an enemy's weakness. As a note, they don't actually participate in battle, since they have absolutely no offensive skills, but they can support outside of battle, such has restoring a small amount of HP and SP after each battle.

Healbots, also self-explanatory. They specialize in recovery spells and maybe one other type of spell, and are responsible for keeping the party healthy. Yukiko and Teddie fall into that category. Every fighting party will want at least one of those on their team if they hope to survive any extended battle.

So basically, the plan is this: Souji and his team will try to take out the weaker Shadows first and get as many Persona Users on their side before they try and tackle the more powerful Shadows. Eventually, they'll have enough people to split into several Four Man Battle Parties (which need at least One Scanner and One Healbot to be effective). If you like, you can suggest whether you want your character to be fought sooner rather than later, and possibly plan out who you'd like to team up with once your character has gained the power of Persona. The more groups we have, the more Scanners and Healbots we'll need, so don't neglect those roles!

Feel free to ask questions if I need to clarify something.

ETA: Here is the MegaTen Wiki which has all sorts of information on Personas and Shadows. Thanks to Haibara-mun for reminding me of that!

ETA the Second! Souji's party is level 78 after fighting Ameno-sagiri, just so you all have a point of reference for creating challenging Boss Shadows.
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[personal profile] grey_grief 2009-12-28 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
Haibara:

Name: Thought and Memory
Description: This is the rough idea of what Lylith is drawing for me for her Shadow, I'm thinking of something based on Odin's ravens for her Persona.
Arcana: Hermit
Inheritance: Ice
Elemental Resistance: Blocks Ice/Dark, absorbs Wind, and weak to Light.
Level: Around 65

She'll be a Scanner/Fighter type, similar to Mitsuru.

Kurama

Name: Kikuri-Hime
Description: Article and picture~ for the Persona. I'm still working out the Shadow, but I'm feeling a strong rose/plant motif.
Arcana: Priestess.
Inheritance: Recovery
Elemental Resistance: Resists Electricity, Blocks Fire, Weak against Darkness
Level: Around 63

As is canon, we've got a Healbot.

Also? FIRST FOR ONCE, YEE-HAH!

I also should be done editing Naoto-mun. ^^;
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[identity profile] peoplesprincess.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Ohhhhh God this sounds so awesome; I wish I knew about Persona so I could participate. D8

*stalks from the sidelines*

[identity profile] det-goofball.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
/posts placeholder

SO that, er. I can edit back with an idea on what Adachi will do. :| I think it hinges just a little on his situation by then...

At any rate, he'll be out for revenge.

franzy, touch this and i will hurt you
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[identity profile] mnkeywrenchjams.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
PLACEHOLDERRRRR orz I need to think out Tidus and Dante's Shadows. Gdit. 8|

[identity profile] halfherfather.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
Speaking of Tidus...I was wondering, Shadow!Terra and Shadow!Tidus double boss fight?

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/same mun

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[identity profile] clockmaster.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'm already writting an app for shadow!Hakuba and once it's done I will post it here with all the details. I will probalby poke you a bit to ask you soem details about the persona canon, so I get all the thign right, I hope you odnt' mind.

The more strongly your character tries to suppress their issues, the stronger their Shadow becomes. Okkkkk Hakuba is going to be a pain, I think. How many levels exist?

Of all my chars I will only make Aoko, Hakuba, Spain and Prussia to be affected. I bet that Aoko's shadow won't be really problematic, she can be defeated first (or assume that she was) and become a Scanner. Same with Spain and he can become a Healbot, I think it fits him.

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[identity profile] seireiishtar.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
/in the process of writing up stuff for Pollution and possibly Pele

I'm thinking Polly will be a scanner. Pele a fighter if I do anything with her. And just a question about their personas, are we supposed to make up our own original ones for them, or could we use pre-existing, or....something? :o
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[personal profile] grey_grief 2009-12-28 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
WHILE I AM NOT RIKKI! We have been discussing this.

As you can see from mine upthread, you can use either/or. The MegaTen wiki is a great resource.

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[personal profile] philoxidizes 2009-12-28 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Name: Sphinx (The greek version-- head of a woman, wings of an eagle, back half of a lion)
Description: his shadow is wearing one of those comedy/tragedy theater masks; the boss resembles the rook from a chess set.
Arcana: Hanged Man
Inheritence: Ailment, fire
Elemental: Resist Fire, weak to electricity
Level: 45

He could plausibly be a scanner or a fighter, both would make sense with what he does in canon-- so I'll hold off and see how many of each we get before assigning him.
Edited 2009-12-28 17:57 (UTC)

BYAKUYA

[identity profile] platycodon.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
I'll make a separate comment for each character participating in this plot.

SHADOW

Description: Shadow!Byakuya (http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6665/yanagoyafanartbleachbya.jpg) courtesy of Lylith. He flaunts his wealth more, the porcelain being switched to gold. He'll also show off more of his body.
Arcana: The Emperor
Inheritance: Physical
Elemental Resistance: Lightning (since he uses that the most in kidou)
Level: Since he represses a lot about himself, I'd say 60+ or even higher. 8( Idk this.

PERSONA

Thankfully, shinigami come with their own personas when they obtain their zanpakuto. His is going to be Senbonzakura's manifestation:

Image (http://photobucket.com/images/senbonzakura%20%28manifestation%29)

He has the same attacks as Byakuya has in the manga. orz, I am so sorry, I tried to do research and I think I did this wrong 8(

Durrr, Senbonzakura is a Fighter.

As the plot gets closer, I'll tl;dr about shadow!Byakuya.
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/already did her research :>

[identity profile] nonoise.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
For Nill's, I... already covered pretty much all of that, so just go here (http://nonoise.livejournal.com/8049.html#cutid1) for lots of derricious TL;DR ♥

As for Xion, give me a little while to make a TL;DR about it and I'll try to get it done, but her Persona will be Attis (http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Attis), and her Arcana is the Hanged Man.

[identity profile] nonoise.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
Aaaand Xion's (http://imperfectionary.livejournal.com/3326.html#cutid1)!

I'll probably draw stuff for Nill's Shadow forms and Persona sometime, too.

[identity profile] hippie-hacker.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know much about the game, but the concept sounds like a lot of fun. I would like to put Wufei in this once I gain a better understanding.

[identity profile] vitative.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
Because I am promised sexy!fuu art for this.

Is it cool if i use Windam, who is the Rune-God she weilds and summons in her canon as her Persona? He's not exactly her other-self but i am incredibly lazy.
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[personal profile] grey_grief 2009-12-28 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
I can't see that being a problem. ^^ Setine is using Byabo's Bankai for his Persona, so I think Windam would be fine.

ABEL NIGHTROAD

[identity profile] crusnik02.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
Abel's might be really hard to come up with BUT I WILL TRY mainly because canonically, he's his own Persona ... because of the nanomachines that are in his blood stream. @_@;

SHADOW

Description: Shadow Abel is his Crusnik form, he surpresses it because a) they'll make him go crazy like they did to Cain and lead him to only desire destruction and b) it's fucking scary. Here is the Shadow (http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000146/00000017/02.jpg).

Arcana: Death
Inheritance: Electricity
Elemental Resistance: None
Level: Possibly boss-level high? This is 990 years of repression :D?

PERSONA

This is kind of tricky, h-he is one of himself? Mainly because within his body there are two organisms: his biological one that he was genetically engineered with and then the one that he injected himself with, Crusnik. 8( any help here would be great.

Re: ABEL NIGHTROAD

[identity profile] det-goofball.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Setine, is it a bad thing if I saw that picture of what the Shadow would be and immediately thought "nngh"?
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[identity profile] halfherfather.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Name: Uh. I'm just going to say Maduin.
Description: Her persona will look something like this (http://www.finalfantasytr.com/images/summonlar/maduin6-b.jpg). Yes, he's going to look like Terra's daddy, kay. Kay. As for her shadow form, while Lylith did make a picture, I'm not too sure what her shadow form will look like exactly. For her 'normal' form, she'll look like herself but for her true self, think a more monstrous form of her esper shape.
Arcana: Death. Yes, Death.
Inheritance: Fire
Elemental Resistance: Strong against fire, weak against darkness.
Level: Probably a pretty high level. She's got a lot of issues that she keeps hidden. Which means her Shadow's going to be a messed up cynical person with a grudge against the world and a pretty hard boss battle. Maybe 60? You be raised as a weapon and not have some major issues.

Terra's esper Persona probably would be a fighter.

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maraich: (Is that a giant duck out the window?)

[personal profile] maraich 2009-12-28 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
Maraich's shadow will speak childishly but dress provocatively. It focuses on his early abuse and betrayal and how he hasn't dealt with it. It will be intimidated by people, shy and nervous. His shadow form has major issues trusting people or letting them anywhere near him, since in its eyes if it lets anyone close they have a better chance of hurting him.


Description: Picture
His arms are bound behind him with vines. He looks and acts weak/vulnerable.

Arcana: Hanged Man

Inheritance: Ailment - Mostly detrimental status effects.

Elemental Resistance:
Resist: Wind
Block: None
Absorb: Water, Light
Reflect: None
Weak: Darkness, Fire

Level: About what level of strength is your Shadow/Persona?
Pretty strong. Most of his issues he's kept to himself for over a decade. Even in canon he didn't really tell anyone about them. Fortunately/unfortunately he will attempt to avoid direct confrontation. If anyone gets close he'll attempt to strangle them with his vines and also do what he can to get away.


Persona

Name: Narcissus

Arcana: Lovers

Description: Right here

Elemental Resistance:
Resist: Ice, Electricity, Wind
Block: None
Absorb: None
Reflect: None
Weak: Slash
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[identity profile] stripping.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
Name: Jikokuten (http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Jikokuten)
Description: Jikokuten's picture. (http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/megamitensei/images/c/c0/P3Jikokuten.jpg) Shadow!Issei's boss form looks mostly like his normal form... except his robes have lengthened to cover the entire floor of the battle area, and his features have twisted into a haglike, deformed grimace. And he's a foot taller because shadows are like that.
Arcana: Strength
Inheritance: Physical, Support
Elemental Resistance: Physical - Strong, Wind - Strong, Dark - Weak (although he has a bunch of 'take less damage from Dark attacks skills)
Level: Hm, let's see... I guess 77-ish? His issues aren't that deep, but Souji's party shouldn't wipe the floor with him.

He's mostly a Fighter type, although he does have some kickass buff spells. I'm using his skills as listed in this (http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/932312/49926) FAQ, although he's way higher level here.
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[identity profile] clockmaster.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
77 is quite of a high level. Of of the most important bosses at the end, it's level 85.

Hakuba's shadow has a lot of things to suppress and he's 76.

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[identity profile] priestessbound.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
This is kind of random, but hmm. Would the P4 kids have their 'perfect' personas by now? Like, the ones they get when Souji finishes their Slinks...

TRISH

[identity profile] crusnik02.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
She looks exactly like she usually does, if anything she'll wear less clothes?

Arcana: Devil
Element: Lightning- Strong, Dark-Strong, idk if you have Holy.

Persona: A reflection of her Devil Triger


[identity profile] crusnik02.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
OH LEVEL: she'll be lower level, like ... 50? She really doesn't repress her Demon side 8(

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[identity profile] gluttonforpasta.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
PLACEHOLDER because I want Italy and V to participate but I've never played the games and want a better understanding first.

EDIT: Shadow Info for both can be found here (http://vengeful-virtue.livejournal.com/7060.html).
Edited 2010-01-04 14:17 (UTC)

[identity profile] a-curious-sock.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry for using a sock, but I know this has been causing personal problems OCly and don't want to get involved in them beyond asking this:

What happened to the Assassin's Event? I thought it was supposed to be at the end of January? Is it still a go for then or is this going to completely overtake it?

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[identity profile] redheadcarrier.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 07:24 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, way back in the day Asuka and Kaworu helped the ol' P3 crew out with their stuff. And technically, I think Asuka still has her Persona thingy she was using back then.

What do you think about her jumping in? :|b
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[identity profile] follow-the-fool.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 09:19 am (UTC)(link)
TOO BAD IT WOULD MOST LIKELY BE LIKE SPITTING ON THE SANCTITY OF THE SERIES IF I GAVE SOUJI A SHADOW :( All that temptation to push Namatame in and anger at Adachi probably sparked some pretty ugly feelings in Mr. Blank Slate.

SHINJIRO

[identity profile] mortal-son.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 02:13 pm (UTC)(link)
For canon-reasons, I'd like to use Shinjiro's Persona as little as possible, if at all. However, because this plot will be so wide-reaching, I'm not going to rule out its use altogether. Desperate times and desperate measures and all that. Especially if we have his Shadow out and about ...

(... Though I don't know how that works if he already has his Persona. Maybe Castor finally's running amok without him? Perhaps this is a better plot not to have him in, then >.>;; )

Do I really need to list the stats for his Persona? *points up at the wiki link*


However, if I decide to have him involved, Shinjiro's Shadow basically be a crazy axe murderer. :|

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ZECHS

[identity profile] thricedeadwind.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
... It took me about twenty minutes to find this link I typed a while ago (http://community.livejournal.com/adddictions/94283.html?thread=22962251#t22962251), jsyk. (I am a huge dork)

Name: Persona - Odysseus (lol have a statue (http://z.about.com/d/atheism/1/0/K/R/Odysseus-l.jpg)) | Shadow Milliardo
Description:

If it's not too over-the-top, the Shadow might have a split personality, much like Naoto's did. The one will be a floofy pacifist uber-sissy Milliardo (http://oncebrightwind.livejournal.com/profile); the other will be your typical crazy Milliardo, ala the AU virus.

However, since Zechs' issues dealing with his crazy-self are pretty well explored, his Shadow might only be all of his very well suppressed I Can't Hurt Anyone It Would Be A Disgrace Against My Family personality, since those issues are well buried deep. Feedback on this would be helpful. :/

Arcana: Judgement (see my tl;dr link in smalltext for extrapolation)

Inheritance:
High Endurance and Agility, low Magic and Luck

Learns:
Ziodyne / High Counter / 1h Sword Master / Dodge Slash / Dodge Strike / Dodge Pierce / Apt Pupil

Notes: Persona seems to be especially weak to status effects; esp Rage

Elemental Resistance: Fire: Weak | Dark: Null | Light: Null

Level: ... idek help?


Zechs' Persona probably can do some fail!scanning (worse than Mitsuru) but otherwise he's definitely a Fighter type. 8'D
Edited 2009-12-28 14:24 (UTC)
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Re: ZECHS

[personal profile] grey_grief 2009-12-28 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, level is generally based on how much repression of the issues is going on. Given that this is Zechs we're talking about, I'd say... high sixties to mid seventies?

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[personal profile] timey_wimey 2009-12-28 02:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Ten:

Name: Time – I CAN EXPLAIN THIS ONE. I did myself some research and there was a religion on Gallifrey centered around three main “Menti Celesti”, Time, Death and Pain. If you believe some of the spin-off media, the Doctor is Time’s champion. So it’s fitting that it should be his persona. :|b
Description: Normal shadow form – himself in a black suit plus old-style Gallifreyan robes. Aggravated shadow form is something like this. And it’s a massive one, folks. :’D

His persona… well idk, the entity calling itself Time is most likely an Eternal. So for the purposes of this plot, it’s probably vaguely feminine-humanoid-looking – long flowing hair, a long dress – and looks like what you’d end up with if you compressed the Time Vortex into a woman’s shape, fading from blue to red and back again and all.
Arcana: The Tower
Inheritance: Almighty, Recovery
Elemental Resistance:
Both his shadow and persona:
Resist: None

Block: None

Absorb: Almighty

Reflect: None

Weak: None

Level: Ten buries and runs away from his issues quiiite a bit, and he’s got a load of them. :|b So I’d say definitely around level 75 or so at least.

We’ve surprisingly got ourselves a healbot/fighter type here, folks. His shadow’s moveset is:

Sonic Punch
Debilitate
Fatal End
Atom Smasher
Life Drain
Spirit Drain
Primal Force
Black Viper


And his persona’s is:

Sonic Punch
Mediarama
Samarecarm
Me Patra
Debilitate
Megidolaon
Salvation
Morning Star


LYLE AND ENGLAND ARE COMING UP. |D

[identity profile] not-that-lockon.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Lyle

Name: Baile (pronounced BAWL-uh) of the Honeyed Speech; an Ulster God of Blarney who ruled over quick and clear thinking, speech, ideas, impressing someone, love magick and protection for lovers.
Description: His shadow’s normal form looks like Neil, (let’s see how many people actually spot the difference, shall we?) only with the colours of the clothes reversed. :|b His aggravated form is a faceless puppet on strings, still in those same clothes.

… come back to me for his persona, I have no clue what Baile should look like.
Arcana: The Lovers
Inheritance: Recovery, Wind
Elemental Resistance:
Shadow:
Resist: None
Block: Wind
Absorb: None
Reflect: None

Weak: Electricity

Persona:
Resist: Physical
Block: Wind

Absorb: None
Reflect: None

Weak: Electricity

BASICALLY, FRY HIM WITH ELECTRICTY, GUYS.

Level: His issues aren’t that deeply buried or complex, so he’s probably about a level 34.

He’s basically a healbot type with a few wind and status moves. His shadow’s moveset is:
Muzzle Shot
Twin Shot
Magaru
Garula
Wind Break
Mind Charge
Sukunda
Tentarafoo


His persona’s moveset is:
Media
Garula
Wind Break
Wind Boost
Diarama
Magarula
Marin Karin
Mutudi
Edited 2009-12-28 17:47 (UTC)

MORE IN-DEPTH SHADOW INFO 8>

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[identity profile] phoenix-temple.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Name: Windam
Description: Something along these lines, aha? (http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk203/insane_in_the_membrane123/Anime%20and%20Manga/Magic%20Knight%20Rayearth/windam.jpg) But oh dear god not that huge.
Arcana: The quiz said the moon, but if anyone has any better ideas, I'm up for them.
Inheritance: She's got a lot of healing/support skills, but is wind-based.
Elemental Resistance: Reflects wind, Weak against fire, strong against light, weak against darkness.
Level: Oh jesus. Uhm. Canonly, what I'm using for her persona is a god. So it's... maybe up there? IDK what the fuck I'm doing. So we'll play pretend

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